Wtf happened......

Discussion in 'Reality Check' started by Smokey, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. bnguitarman

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    All I'm saying really is that it seems like Halifax is afraid to move forward. You can still have a city with heritage and tall buildings. I liked the Skye Halifax proposal personally
     
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    Property owners are leaving some vacant on purpose. Only assessed/and taxed as full commercial if they actively being used for that purpose. I am sure there are creative ways to factor in losses for tax purposes as well (not an accountant). They are hoping that in a few years when ship building is under way the highest and best use of the properties may change and they can capitalize by redeveloping/selling or perhaps commanding a higher lease income over longer leases. The anticipation of change in the near future is keeping the storefronts vacant.
     
  3. Ryan_NS

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    The absolute worst thing you could do to downtown is create more parking and encourage more cars. Not to mention surface parking lots are an incredible waste of space and resources.

    Downtown desperately needs more residential developments and council really needs to start considering light rail as a transit option.

    As far as the lack of developments go....well it's not as if there hasn't been numerous developments proposed.
     
  4. Arod

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    Condo dwellers, apartment renters, people who don't have functioning yards, property owners around the area who can enjoy greater utility from and increased property values in their neighbourhood. I think those people give a shit.
     
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    Great points..and I am pretty sure that will be halifaxes future. May not be overnight but it will happen.
     
  6. Jess

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    There are 6 paid parking lots on the waterfront!

     
  7. Ryan_NS

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    It's frustrating because Halifax has the potential to be so much more. I challenge anyone to find me a city of similar size (500k or less) in North America with a core even close to half as vibrant as Halifax's. Halifax is unique in that fact and it's almost more European or South American in that sense then North American. Unfortunately it's slowly losing that vibrancy as we see increased urban sprawl and dependency on the car for transit.

    Funny nobody ever mentions that Bayer's Lake or Dartmouth Crossing are struggling.
     
  8. 17

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    it was -11ty outside, i was with my parents who didnt feel up to walking uphill for 10 minutes. before i hop metro transit or start calling cabs, im going to go to places that i can park my vehicles and not wonder if / rush to get parking. thats just how i feel about it :shrug:
     
  9. Big Al

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    I've read a few studies on LRT systems, they're not supportable in this city, due partially due to geography, and in part due to population. We need to fix our busing system first, endless amounts of improvement could be found if we had someone with enough foresight and more importantly the ability/power to make change. Look at a city like Ottawa - no LRT there, but the bus system when I used it was endlessly better than Halifax's, dedicated bus lanes etc.
     
  10. tribeachpunk

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    You're not going to like it if/when the hospital parking lot on South Park reverts back to green space. Caught a bit of this on the news the other night.

    Apparently the land the parking lot is on is common land, the same as the Commons and Victoria Park. The parking lot was part of Victoria Park and could someday revert.
     
  11. Ryan_NS

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    This I can agree with. I lived in Ottawa for a year and OC Transpo was amazing. On another note they actually did begin construction on LRT just recently. I still think this would be an option for HRM, especially the Sackville>Bedford>Downtown route as the infrastructure is already in place.

    But yea, improving the bus situation first would be a wise choice.
     
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    Plus the parkade at the Prince George, or the two massive parkades on Albemarle (other side of the Metro Centre) :)
     
  13. tribeachpunk

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    After not riding the bus for a couple years, I did while my car was in the shop last month. It was nice to know exactly when the bus would be there, not when it should be there like it used to be. The buses arrived on time. I did have to walk a couple blocks to and from the bus stops, but not kilometres.. It seemed better going from downtown to Main Street Dartmouth for a couple days.

    And I know we can't support any kind of large scale LRT, but the existing infrastructure is awfully tempting. Just a back and forth on the route you mentioned, couple times a day, M-F.. Really simple. I can understand how even that may not be viable, however. Might be worth a shot on a trial basis perhaps, if HRM was on speaking terms with CN..
     
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    That's because Bayer's Lake and Dartmouth Crossing are way cheaper than downtown for developers and easier for commuters/consumers. We're shooting ourselves in the foot with these parks, although I would much rather go to either of them than go downtown.

    Honestly, the only reason I go downtown is for Hockey games or Concerts.
     
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    The bus system is another problem in my opinion. I can drive to work in about 15 minutes. If I take the bus, it would take 1.5-2 hours.
     
  16. tribeachpunk

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    I would have said the same thing about my bus rides. Going from Gottingen/Cogswell to Woodlawn/Main only took me about 5 more minutes by bus than it would have taken me by car. My car ride is made longer by a stop for a coffee which you can't do on the bus. So maybe ~10 minutes longer.

    Five or ten years ago, I know that trip would have taken a lot longer by bus.
     
  17. *Jani*

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    Every city has it's issues. It makes me sad to see all the historical buildings crumbling and sitting abandoned on Barrington, but some are in such bad shape, I guess I can't blame businesses for not wanting to set up shop in buildings where the utility bill would be out of this world. (money just flying out of the drafty windows). Not to mention, I'm sure the rent is enough to make me gag.

    Historically, it would be nice to keep the frames and brick exteriors but make them energy efficient. Financially, I know it would be cheaper to just rebuild.

    And also, Barrington St is a horrible street to drive on. As much as it would be a pain to get used to, being a one way street could alleviate some problems. Having 1 lane dedicated to buses, and the other for cars would surely speed things up.

    This being said, I am not an expert and this is just my humble opinion :)
     
  18. HairyAss

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    I'm not exactly sure where the keg is but there are paid parking lots all over the downtown. Your real complaint is that you couldn't find free on the street parking because you're too cheap to pay for parking.
     
  19. Cheddar

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    The problem is that the developers hands are tied. Its all to often that the Building Codes and the Historic Society's rules are in direct conflict leaving the building unable to do anything other than let the building sit unoccupied due to safety and legal concerns until it falls down on its own. For example Building code says wooden beams can't be left exposed, and the Historic Society says they can't be covered up if its a historic site. What does the developer do?
     
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    yeah, i was ready to spend 80+ on a meal and didnt want to spend 6 bucks for parking. caught me.
     
  21. *Jani*

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    I know, Cheddar. It's ass backwards...
     
  22. Friday

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    You can park at Scotia Square or the Casino and not even have to go outside to get to the Prince George Hotel where IIRC The Keg is next door. Never had any trouble finding space to park downtown unless there is a hockey game or another huge event on.

    Someone here mentioned that we don't need big development downtown because there is a lot of vacancies. This is not quite true. Residential vacancies in Halifax are below the National average and are only as high as they are (2.9% because we finally have a lot of large multi-unit-residential projects on the go in the city (mostly off Clayton Park/Larry Uteck unfortunately) which temporarily increases the vacancy rate while they are filled. If the vacancies being referred to was commercial space downtown that is because it is Class A space the vast majority of companies are looking for when they are leasing space in downtown cores. There is essentially only frictional vacancy of Class A space downtown. Vacancy in low rise, inefficient, and essentially any space that is not ground level without an elevator can be very challenging to rent because most businesses do not want to spend money on this type of space.
     
  23. bellarolli

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    I love peninsular Halifax and always will!
    Halifax seems like a mini-Montreal to me, but with
    fresh lobster and warmwater beaches an hour
    to the north.

    Money ain't everything, and it sure as hell wasn't
    to Patrik Rorsman, so expats now living in Alberta
    who put us down, I send a curse your way!

    I agree, I agree, except the vibrancy thing. As long as there are universities here, it will keep this lovely little city vibrant with youthful enthusiasm and potential. Empty retail spaces, who cares....it's the people who make the city! I tried my best to give the little guy some business, but since Sievert's was closed at a ludicrously early hour, my monthly Monte Cristo purchase went to Sobeys.
     
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    So I don't understand your stance - people have pointed out that there is tons of parking near the Keg.
     
  25. Benedict

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    exactly, If his parents didnt want to walk in the cold, drop them off and go park somewheres.
     
  26. briangtiguy

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    yup yup! get them that over priced steak!
     
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    is it really this big of a deal? i offered and they felt it inconvenienced me (which it didnt) and wanted to stick together

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    there wasnt that night. not sure what youre looking for.
     
  28. Cooper

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    Apparently you're the only person who's had trouble finding a parking spot downtown.
     
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    Oddly enough, the ONLY time i didnt have trouble finding parking downtown was when i was running a 1ton cube van for a service vehicle. But i just parked on the sidewalk and put my 4ways on, nobody had to know i was actually in the metro centre playing hockey :lol:

    Other then that, finding a spot thats actually close to where you wanna go is atrocious
     
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    Halifax would be, could be, should be... but it's not, sadly. I would love to see this place thrive, but unfortunately it seems to be dying. So we're off to build what we hope to be a "better" life for our family (in Alberta). I have been told by many who have done the move that us Nova Scotians are in a "bubble". We (apparently) have no idea what life can really be like in a place where our government doesn't look for ways to screw us, for lack of a better term. I guess we'll see! It will always be "home" but there would have to be some major changes to bring us (and most people) back.
     
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    Sounds about right.
     
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    The government has to screw us and will have to continue to do so, until our main economic drivers (young people) stop going for "easy money" and stay home in NS to work hard and make something of themselves.

    So then what are we left with? An ailing/aging population with a dwindling tax base, just as many schools to maintain (but no children to fill them), more roads to maintain due to new developments, and less money to do it all with. Combine that dwindling tax base, with I'm sure the inevitable change to equalization payments in the future, and shit's not going to get any better.

    While I'm no where near an NDP supporter, I do think these latest round of announcements with the Engineering firm and IBM setting up shop are hopefully progressive for the province. But that doesn't mitigate their bigger mistakes of being in bed with NSPI, the Unions and that/those bloody pulp mills.

    Every guy/girl I know here that has stuck it out, has made something of themselves, I can't think of a single friend that's on EI/Welfare.
     
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    Good post al.
     
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    Ohh and to add to that, most are 22-30 and are all home owners... Not working minimum wage jobs.
     
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    the idea of not paying 60 grand in tax every year is appealing tho.
     

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