Discussion in 'Reality Check' started by wylderhoads, Oct 9, 2004.
You just don't know how to drive. :P
Its not how you race your car, its how you stand by it.
How much does a 92 Accord weigh?
as i said earlier..
did u actually?
I like cylindowned myself!
STFU and come pick me up from work so I can go get my 3 cylinder boosted Accord and bring her home! ops:
I'm talking about the f22, and no i'm only teasing.
According to auto.consumerguide.com
A 90-93 Accord has a curb weight of 2738lbs. for the coupe and 2735 for the sedan.
A 94-97 Accord has a curb weight of 2855lbs. for coupe or sedan.
That translates to "not a lot of difference."
Interestingly, the last-gen Prelude's only weight 2954lbs, a big chunk of which has to be the rather heavy H22.
This swap has always baffled me. With used Prelude prices right now, you spend almost as much on an Accord and a swap as the Prelude would cost you, and you now have a car with the same power, that weights almost as much and has a less sophisticated and worse handling chassis, plus any "gremlins" that come with owning a hybrid car. Not to mention the fact that a used 'Lude is still worth something while a swapped car can be a nighmare to sell used.
Cars can be a very baffling subject. I mean, look at your car. You paid almost 50 grand for a 3029 lb car with less torque then my $7000 accord. By the looks of the numbers the RX-8s put down, your car is definetly not $40,000 quicker then mine. Definetly baffling.
The numbers on the rx-8s can be deceiving though, as the torque is distributed differently, in a straight line, not so much a curve. Makes a big difference.
Besides, there are many other differences other than what car is "faster".
Thanks for the info Dave.
oh and I know there are many other differences. Just proving a point. Some people are into swapping a prelude motor into an accord, some people are into buying underpowered, overrated sports cars. To each their own.
Haha whatever, I just pay attention and learn things.
I seem to have struck a nerve, as you have resorted to a completely unrelated and invalid comparison.
The question I asked was, why do people spend basically the same money to end up in the same place?
I don't see anything in there that asks about why don't people just go out and buy cars like mine. In fact, I didn't even mention I owned a car in that post.
First off, the comparison is invalid.
I didn't want a 12 year old car. I wanted a new one. How much is a new Accord with the same equipment and power as my car?
According to Honda.ca, a new Accord Coupe with basically the same power and equipment as my car is $40,590.32.
My car MSRP was $40,995.
Hmm, pretty damn close.
Since the Accord is Front-Wheel Drive, it was not in consideration for me when I was shopping.
If I wanted to drive around in an old car, don't you think I could? It's not like buying cheap used cars and swaping in motors takes any special talent or ability. Everybody can do it. (And it seems like they are.)
*sigh* When you stop Magazine racing and show your face out at AMP for a lapping day, then you can make comments about what is "overrated and underpowered." Until then, you are making broad generalizations based on your own bias and I have to assume, Internet hype and magazine specs.
*Edit: The passing reference you make in there to "some people are into swapping prelude motors into an accord.... To each their own." That is a real, valid answer. I still don't get it, but I can accept that. The rest of your reaction is just baseless...
One word: S2000 (even that makes more torque then an RX-8 )
True, it was on my radar, but it was about $8000 more.
Also, while the S2000 may have more peak torque, it is much less useable power, as the Honda makes it across a much narrower span of the rpm band.
The appeal of the rotary is the smoothness across the power band.
I tried to look at an S2000, but nobody at the Honda dealership would talk to me. In fact, they laughed when I mentioned I was in the market for one. Besides, the S2000 is actually a pretty dull looking car in typical Honda fashion, and not the least bit practical.
That brought it down to the G35c and the RX-8.
so why did you pick the rx-8 over the G35c?
G35 coupe's are teh h0tne55
The interiors look 'plasticy' tho.
I have a sweet pic of one but the media wont let me upload... prolly cuz I'm at school?
They are cheap on the interior front, but the RX-8 is as well so it is a very fair comparison.
Lets get back to why I wasn't pulling on you since I have a 2 1/4" exhaust and header... bigger wheels wouldn't make that big of a difference now would it?
Just wait until I get a normal exhaust
Both nice cars. I liked the G35 a lot the times I drove it, but:
1. It's a frickin' sled! The RX-8 has a curb of 2950 lbs, the G35c is 3500lbs! It was plenty quick, but in the turns I could feel the extra weight.
2. The driving. Rode nice, but the handling wasn't what I was looking for, the gear-change was a bit sloppy etc.
3. Way bigger then the RX-8, but no more useable space. In fact, I found the interior to be more cramped for me. (Before I went and got the moonroof in my car of course.)
4. The price difference. Equipped the same, the G35c was about $7000 more.
5. Interior quality. I'm going to spend some time here. As is typical of Nissan's right now, the interior is CHEAP. The plastics would maybe look at home in a Sentra. No-way I can accept them in a $50,000 car. The RX-8 is a bit plasticy as well, but it's better then the G35, and it costs less.
6. While I think they look great, they are still very much the generic curvy swoopy car you see everywhere. It struck me that in a year or two it will just look like everything else. Love or hate the RX-8 (personally, I love) but it's certainly won't be confused with anything else.
Not really a number, but overall, my inner geek just thinks the Rotary engine is a fantastic idea. I've always loved them, and always wanted to own a rotary.
*shrug* That's what did it for me.
Mind you, we are now WAY off topic.
Guess I'm never going to get to know the reasons people build the Accord Hybrids rather then just buy a Prelude...
The wheels would probably make about as much of a "real world" difference as some sewer-pipe exhaust would....
Well, kids with down syndrome aren't commonly confused with anything else either.
True, they certainly aren't. But, there aren't a whole lot of people who find the kids with "down syndrome" to be attractive.
But, judging by the number of thumbs up and questions/friendly comments/compliments I get in the run of a day, plenty of people agree with me about the looks of the car.
One G35 coming right up...
It's the new car mystery this year. Last year was "Where did all the RX-8 horsepower go" and this year it's "Why are people swapping motors into Accords"
:x I hate my car
Ahhh. Cool. I always love a good mystery story!
Next year, I'm guessing it's "Why won't anybody buy my old car with a swapped engine?"
BTW, I just noticed 96 SR-Vs on Trader.ca for $9000 in TO.... so cheaper and newer then the swapped Accord.
Have you guys been taking automotive advice from Anthony or something?
I was never impressed with the car untill you gunmetaled the wheels..