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  1. RoryTate

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    I'm in the market for a tow vehicle (we bought a 5000lb camper trailer).

    I could go the el-cheapo route and pick something up for $10-15k and have two vehicles in the driveway that I don't drive much (car and truck).

    Or I can trade in my car on a newer truck ($27-35k) and enjoy a nicer vehicle with less chance of issues.

    Or I can trande my car in on an older Raptor (2012-2013, $35k) and go full bro.

    What would you do?
     
  2. Grifter

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    Trade in on a truck. Not a Raptor. 5000lb isn't that much to be towing, so almost any truck would pull that without issue. Mid size like a frontier, taco or Colorado would handle that.
     
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    That'd be borderline. I run a Frontier now, and I wouldn't want to be towing a 5000lb camper too far. I get 27 - 28 L/100km towing my 3500lb camper now :lol:

    Depending on the model / options / passengers / cargo they are technically rated to tow 5000lb or a little more though.

    You'd be MUCH better off with a newer 1/2 ton truck. It'd get better mileage (towing and day to day) as well!
     
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    If it was boat or utility towing I would say option 1 but reliability would be nice trying to take family camping. Last thing you need is unexpected breakdown ruining a trip. So option 2.
     
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    Jesus! That's terrible mileage!

    Im not positive on the tow rating of a frontier. I figured it'd be good for 6-6500 lbs. Similar to the Tacoma which I know are rated in that area.

    Obviously be better off with a full size truck and a V8, and the price difference wouldnt be much. But for 5000lbs, a mid size would handle it.

    More room interior wise in a full size, I guess the next question would be do you haul family around as well?
     
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    That's one of the reasons why the truck (and camper) are going for sale very soon! :lol:

    16-17 L/100 daily driving lately.
     
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    Comes down to the max combined weight of the loaded (people, cargo, tongue weight) truck and the loaded trailer. That's a max of 11,133lbs for the Frontier.

    For my model (4dr, 4x4) they say max towing of 6100lbs. That assumes just 1 person and no cargo (I think).

    My GVWR is listed as 5815lb (includes passengers and cargo).

    I run a fiberglass cap and always carry extra stuff in the bed, so take away another +/- 300lbs

    That leads me to believe my (safe) max tow shouldn't exceed 5020lbs.
     
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    The trailer is 5000 empty, 7700 if all kitted out & full water. That alone pretty much rules out a midsize truck, unfortunately.

    I test drove a 5.0 2016 F150 today (used work truck which has some small issues already), and will try a 2014 3.5 ecoboost fx4 with luxury package. I'm guessing the 2014 will get the nod from my wife before the 2016 will. Prices are within $2k of each other, so no big difference.

    Bummer is my 2015 ecoboost mustang is only getting $17k on trade. That really hurts, as I was expecting at least $20k, but the high mileage is killing it (120k km).
     
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    Find a private buyer and do a paper trade to get a little more for it. And trucks are damn expensive now, all of them.
     
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    keep an eye on the payload of the truck as well. Most 1/2 tons that will be your limiting feature. 5k trailer isnt so bad though. But with some trucks (dodge) and only 1200lbs payload, once you get 400lbs of people and 600lbs tongue weight, you're not left with a whole lot of cargo capacity for gear.
     
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    *Current* trailer is 5000lbs. Almost everyone I know ends up getting a slightly larger trailer after a year or two.
     
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    I'm currently hunting for that bigger truck... not not everyone here is moving in to the "air suspension and air brakes" category... :lol:
     
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    I picked out a truck. It has a max tow package, 11000 lbs. Future proofing!
     
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    So true.
     
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    This is part of why I got the diesel when I purchased my Titan. I wanted the gas, wife pointed out two things. One, we want a bigger camper in the future. Two, she thought the diesel rumble and sound of the turbo/exhaust was hot.
     
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    We have a 3000lbs trailer when loaded with bikes and gear is pushing 5k, we also have both a newer Tacoma and a Tundra, no way I'd want to tow it any amount of distance with the Taco.
     
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    payload?
    11k is great but when you're talking trailers, anything really over 9/10k you should look at a 2500.
     
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    I'll remember that when I decide to buy a three axle fifth wheel toy hauler.
     
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    5th hauls way better than a bumper pull... and you certainly don't need a 3rd axle to be near that kind of weight.

    Having watched Scott do it I know he's over-researched the subject and talked to a pile of people who haul larger rigs at campgrounds and such. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's practical...
     
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    So what did you decide on? must have pics
     
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    "max tow" implies it's a Chev / GM 1500, possibly with the 6.2 like Scotts
     
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    13,200 is what my 3.5 is rated for.
     
  24. Scott

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    many bumper pull trailers in the 30ft range are gonna get you up into that 9k+ weight easy.
     
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    Also, don't skimp on a good Weight Distribution hitch with Anti sway.
     
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    11,000 could also be a 11-14 ecoboost f150 equipped with max trailer tow package
     
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    This makes a world of difference.
     
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    Winner winner, chicken dinner. 2014 F150 FX4 with a locking 3.73. 402a, nav, & other goodies to boot.

    I haven't taken delivery yet, so no pics. I haven't taken delivery of the trailer yet either, but a weight distribution hitch is included as well.
     
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    :bowdown: fucking sweet!
     
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    Yeah you should have no issues with a 5k trailer with that and a good hitch. Make sure it has anti sway too though. Some basic/standard Reese hitches are just WD.
     
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    I did a year with my Taco and a 5500lb car trailer, it was not fun, white knuckling at times lol. Now I use a Tundra with 5.7L. Still use all the wd and anti sway gear and it is very stable, much more relaxing to drive longer distances.
     
  32. billybob

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    Always have more tow than you need.

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    Took delivery this morning. This thing is a hell of a lot larger than the Mustang.

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    swap some tow mirrors on er :cool:
     
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    Damn that looks great
     

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