Official - ANTI UBB THREAD

Discussion in 'Reality Check' started by Boots, Jan 24, 2011.

  1. Muricane

    MY AV IS ME

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    Just got the wife to sign it, apparently she was 249,788
     
  2. Wayne

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    Well according to Wikipedia there are 28 million internet subscribers in Canada, 250k signatures is only 0.89%...gonna need more than that.
     
  3. Muricane

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    Probably 28 million people with internet in the home, which would include children and elderly people who live in a house with internet.
     
  4. hank

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    Population by age:

    http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/demo10a-eng.htm

    Only ~28 million people in Canada above age 15
     
  5. tommi

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    I thought 250 was a bit low too, but in a matter of 3 or 4 days its went from about 50k to 250k.
     
  6. PDizzle

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    Nice email bootsie lol
     
  7. Wayne

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    I assumed it wasn't completely accurate and not suggesting that 250K isn't a great number so far, I just think in comparison to subscribers (let's say 1/5 of 28 million) there is some more signatures needed likely to get this really making noise.
     
  8. Majarvis

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    Keep in mind how many people go online and are oblivous to what they're doing. You're not likely to see those signatures, either.
     
  9. mctoad

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    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/tech-news/pm-orders-review-of-internet-billing/article1890567/
     
  10. Tony

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    CRTC Pricing regulations on User Based Billing(UBB)

    http://www.digitalhome.ca/2011/01/crtc-firms-up-pricing-rules-on-usage-based-billing/

    Sign the petition here: http://openmedia.ca/meter

    This will only mean more expensive internets. Dunno what Eastlink's status on it would be though.

    http://www.channelcanada.com/Article5436.html

    (Bell is synonimous with Shaw, Rogers and Telus)

    The whole thing is with UBB is: If someone like Bell has a wholesale customer that resells to smaller communities, and they decide to implement UBB to them, then they implement UBB to every single individual entity. In the past the wholesalers were able to offer a lower price than someone like Bell, because Bell is a bunch of moneygrubbing jackwagons.

    This would quite possibly be the best thing to ever happen to Eastlink and other companies large enough to not have Bell, Rogers or Shaw as a backbone to rent from.

    The shit hits fan on March 1st. If your internet bills doubles, and you didn't leave Rogers (60GB cap), Shaw (100GB for extreme) or Bell/Telus (25GB cap) for a company like Eastlink, it's your own stupid fault.

    25GB is laughable. Youtube, Netflix, VOIP and Steam live and die by the ability of users to download craploads of data.

    Generic form TekSavvy, a Telus wholesale redistributor in Ontario and Quebec.

    Regulatory Capture

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Regulatory_capture

    http://www.eastlink.ca/internet/docsis3-30/index.asp

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Lex Lucas

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    Tony out of no where..

    also you didn't see the yellow banner at the top of the site
     
  13. Boots

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    Love seeing people pay attention to this issue.
     
  14. Boots

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    My bill has already increased while the amount of data I can use has gone down. Shaw sent me a letter a couple weeks ago saying my combined limit is now 35 gb and it is $2.50 for every gig after that. If I get a huge bill next month I will just go back to Telus, convince them to give me a higher package on the cheap and get rid of all my shaw products.
     
  17. Heather

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    signed
     
  18. Ron Mexico

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    if the cap was 250 around the board it wouldn't be bad at all
     
  19. Cheddar

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    Isn't there the possiblity that the incumbents are using the UBB as a scapegoat. I mean Bell will charge joeblowinternetprovder a per gb rate, but not all users will use the same amount of data. So if Joeblow uses lets say 10,000,000GB per month based on all its customers, that doesn't mean that its all being used equally. Some people will use 250GB others maybe 1gb and then a bunch inbetween. I can't help but wonder if the incumbents total average monthly data costs will go up or down if the total customer usage stays the same and they just pay per GB rather than a lump sum. For example, if they pay bell 10,000,000 a month for their data now, but after UBB bell charges them 50 cents per GB,they would actually be making more money after UBB.

    Just something to think about.

    PS The numbers were just examples, not even guestimates.
     
  20. Cooper

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    Signed. Will force fam to sign.
     
  21. Stang

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    Fuck the NDP - My man Stevie will fix you up. :lol:
     
  22. Boots

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    286,000 signatures
     
  23. Ty

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    Signed, and distributed around my office for signatures as well. Any idea how much data would be used streaming a radio station or Grooveshark all day long? I do this pretty much everyday.
     
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    Would it be as simple as checking your router's log? I use DD-WRT but have never bothered checking it before now. I'm curious to see how much I use.
     
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  25. PhD

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    u mad cuz i'm stylin on u

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    Cbc radio is currently airing a story covering this issue
     
  26. mctoad

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    335k siggys!
     
  27. Boots

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    Nuts!
     
  28. Ryan_NS

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    Signed and wrote an letter my M.P. to express my concerns. Thankfully SaskTel stated they won't adopt a UBB policy.
     
  29. boing

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  30. Bandit

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    holy shit, our government might do something for the people for once
     
  31. Ty

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    So even if the government overturns the CRTC's decision, what stops Bell from not offering unlimited packages anymore and putting basically the same system in place under their own discretion?
     
  32. Cheddar

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    Once its done there should be an audit of the CRTC to insure everything was above board.

    On the other hand, the telcos will just increase their price plans to make up for this, and then even the companies like eastlink that were not going to implement UBB will benefit.
     
  33. Ty

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    Exactly, this is why I always buy the utilities in Monopoly ;)
     
  34. Boots

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