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NÜRBURGRING Lap Times

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  1. Boots

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    6:59 --- Ferrari 312T, Niki Lauda, German GP, training (1975)
    7:06 --- Ferrari 312T, Clay Regazzoni, German GP, race (1975)
    *1.2m longer circuit than standard Nordschleife

    6:11 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Stefan Bellof, training (1983)
    6:26 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Stefan Bellof, race (1983)
    6:41 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Derek Bell
    7:50 --- BMW X5 Le Mans V12, Hans Stuck (2001)
    *0.232 km longer than current, standard Nordschleife


    7:06 --- BMW M3 GTR, 24hrs, test session, Jörg Müller (2003)
    7:19 --- Radical SR3 Turbo (2003), >>> Link
    7:20* -- Opel Astra DTM V8 Coupe, set-up for 24hrs race (sport auto 2003) *estimated
    7:25 --- Alzen Motorsport Porsche 996, 24hrs race, Uwe Alzen
    7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl, Autobild July 2004 - Fastest production road car time to date
    7:32.4 -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time by Horst Von Saurma
    7:32.5 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (2001) >>> Link
    7:36 --- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)
    7:40* - Porsche Carrera GT, *estimated time on cold and partially wet track (2003)
    7:40 --- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild July 2004 >>> Link
    7:42 --- Radical 1500 SR3 (2002)
    7:43 --- TechArt GT Street (2001)
    7:43 --- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Rohrl, MOTOR Magazine
    7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine, 2002)
    7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12S (2003)
    7:45 --- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 (2000)
    7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2
    7:46 --- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (1999)
    7:47 --- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381PS (996) (2004)
    7:49 --- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
    7:50 --- BMW E46 M3 CSL (08/2003)
    7:50 --- Blitz Supra, 750 PS, Herbert Schürg (1997)
    7:50 --- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (1993)
    7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002)
    7:52 --- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (1995)
    7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003)
    7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004)
    7:54 --- Porsche GT3 (996) (2003)
    7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
    7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
    7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
    7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (tested by Dave Hill)
    7:57 --- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS, racing suspension
    7:59 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Performance Chassis) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
    8:02 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Sport PASM setting) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
    8:03 --- Porsche 996 GT3 (1999)
    8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT (07/2000)
    8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 (12/2002)
    8:05 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Normal PASM setting)(Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
    8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
    8:06 --- Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn
    8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello (06/1998)
    8:09 --- Honda NSX-R 3.2 (08/2002)
    8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena (10/1999)
    8:09 --- Lamborghini Diablo SV (no ABS?)
    8:10 --- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411PS, UK-Spec, no ABS (10/1997)
    8:10 --- Donkervoort D8 180R
    8:12 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (04/2002)
    8:12 --- Porsche 993 Turbo
    8:13 --- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS (05/1999)
    8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 PS (10/2004)
    8:15 --- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 PS
    8:15*-- Holden GTS (2000), *estimated
    8:15 --- Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (997) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
    8:16 --- AC-Schnitzer E36 M3 CLS II, 350 PS (11/1997)
    8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish (2003)
    8:17 --- Porsche 996 C2
    8:18 --- BMW Z8, 400 PS (08/2000)
    8:18 --- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (09/2003)
    8:18 --- Ferrari F355 (06/1997)
    8:20 --- Audi RS6 (2002)
    8:22 --- BMW E46 M3 (12/2000)
    8:22 --- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS (10/1998)
    8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55 (07/2004)
    8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT (2003)
    8:23 --- Porsche 996 Carrera 4
    8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (2004)
    8:25 --- Audi RS4 375 HP
    8:25 --- Callaway C12
    8:25 --- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI (11/1999)
    8:25 --- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (11/2002)
    8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG (05/2001)
    8:26 --- Nissan 350Z (2003)
    8:28 --- BMW M5, 400 PS(also confirmed by Motor Commodore magazine, 2000)
    8:28 --- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
    8:28 --- Porsche 993 Carrera 2
    8:29 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG (05/2000)
    8:29 --- Audi S4 4.2 Avant (11/2003)
    8:30 --- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa (10/2002)
    8:31 --- Ferrari F355 GTS, 380 PS
    8:32 --- BMW M Roadster, 321 PS (09/1997)
    8:32 --- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (05/2003)
    8:32 --- Porsche Boxster S
    8:32 --- Volkswagen Golf R32
    8:34 --- Acura NSX, 276 PS
    8:34 --- BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i, 231 PS (04/2001)
    8:35 --- BMW M3 Coupe, 321 PS
    8:35 --- Brabus-Mercedes Benz C V8 Sportcoupé (02/2002)
    8:36 --- BMW E36 M3 EVO, 321 PS
    8:36 --- Alpina-BMW B3 3.3 Coupé (07/1999)
    8:37 --- Maserati 3200GT (2002)
    8:37 --- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG (09/2001)
    8:37 --- Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
    8:37 --- Subaru Impreza GT Turbo
    8:37 --- Honda NSX 3.0 (07/1991)
    8:38 --- Honda NSX 3.2 (08/1997)
    8:38 --- Mercedes Benz SL500 (12/2001)
    8:38 --- Porsche 996 Carrera, 296 PS
    8:38 --- Brabus-Mercedes Benz CLK 5.8 (12/1998)
    8:39 --- Honda S2000 (01/2000)
    8:39 --- Morgan Aero 8 (04/2003)
    8:40 --- Holden GTS, on an in and out lap (2000)
    8:40 --- Chevrolet Corvette C5 Targa Automatic (07/1997)
    8:41 --- Aston Martin DB7 (1999)
    8:41 --- Audi S3, 210 PS (06/1999)
    8:42 --- Audi S4, 265 PS (08/1998)
    8:42 --- Lotus Exige (11/2000)
    8:43 --- Honda Integra Type R (12/2000)
    8:44 --- Chevrolet Corvette C5
    8:45 --- Chevrolet Corvette, 339 PS, automatic
    8:46 --- Porsche 993 Carrera S, 285 PS
    8:47 --- Honda Civic Type-R, 200 PS (11/2001)
    8:49 --- Jaguar XKR Coupe (07/1998)
    8:49 --- Renault Clio Sport V6
    8:49 --- Audi TT 1.8T quattro Coupé, 225 PS (11/1998)
    8:50* -- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (2000)
    8:51 --- Mercedes Benz C43 AMG (02/1998)
    8:52 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 430
    8:58 --- Lotus Esprit Turbo SE (07/1991)
    9:09 --- Volkswagen Golf V6 4Motion

    References:

    All times in bold print were tested by Horst von Saurma, sport auto magazine

    red = modified

    Motor Commodore magazine, 25th anniversary edition,* = times estimated

    *Autocar 12/97 same-day test, driver Stephen Sutcliffe, >>> Link

    *Top Gear Magazine 10/97 same-day test, 2 professional drivers (best times listed)




    7:21 - Blitz Supra, 650 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
    7:59 - Nissan Skyline R33, unknown suspension & boost; no limiter (Autocar magazine 1997)
    8:20 - BMW E36 M3, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)

    *Shortened Nordschleife


    ** Stolen from OT. Couldn't resist. :cool: list!
     
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    That's pretty sick.... the M3 CSL is one retarded fast car.
     
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    No shit......... Maybe they might be nice and give us Canadians it for one year. I know they offered the euro spec e36 m3 for a year, while you yanks got the 240 hp. :D

    Come on BMW, give us the csl.........
     
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    i love that all the cars that ran the STi's time or faster are worth many times more than the STi. The little car that could. It's funny I don't see an evo on there, evo's usually fair slighly better than STi's on the track.
     
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    Yeah, except the Caterham 7 Superlight that is probalby HALF the price of the STI lol the little car that DID. :D
     
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    8:25 --- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI (11/1999)
    8:25 --- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (11/2002)

    maybe i dont know

    edit.. yep that is an evo
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    Thanks, I didn't see that for some reason. I wonder what the Carisma part of the name is all about, I wonder if it's another special edition of the evo that we can't get.


     
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    True true. The STi can do it with a trunk load of groceries though. :-) I seriously doubt you could tolerate the Caterham 7 as a daily driver. Hehe


     
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    maybe its the german name??
     
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    By that measure you could make an argument for EVERY SINGLE CAR on there being in it's place for one reason or another. In fact, they are. Keep adding qualifications and you'll work the STi right out of it's esteemed position. :D
     
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    It weighs nearly nothing... and he's right, no chance that'd make a good daily driver!
     
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    I love the 'Ring, one thing I do before I die is drive there, in something decent. Almost did it 3 years ago, but racing here took all my money.
    I have a bunch of incar stuff from there, here is one...

    Ah, perhaps my file is too big, it won't upload.
     
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    I bet the price of the caterham is nearly identical to the sti, if its a true caterham that is.

    One awesome car, actually been trying to get the buddy who owns one locally to sell me it so i can replace the integra.

    Its not 230 hp, but its 175hp dual webber setup. Driven it and its unbelieveable fast, something like 4 sec's to 60, 100mph in like 11 sec range.

    Dam why can't i have it......... :pissed:

    As for videos do a search and find the vid of the dude driving the ruf (yellow bird i believe) porsche around there. Something like 550hp twin turbo, 0-60 in 2.8
     
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    If you use the european pricing schedule for the Caterham and the Subaru, specifically the English conversions, you'll find the Caterham can be had considerably cheaper.
     
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    I love that you can just roll up to the ring, buy a ticket (For like $12!!) and go. Thats insane.
     
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    You can rent an M3, too.
     
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    The pic Boots posted of the track is only the short portion used for F1 and other racing series. The full track is 20.8kms long
     

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