Minihome help again: Bathtub suddenly not draining

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  1. PitBull

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    So my bathtub won't drain now. It happened all of a sudden, sometime last night. I'm worried the drain is frozen, but all the other fixtures work fine. What's the best way to free a frozen drain, if it's frozen? I might run out and pick up some drain-o or those plugs that blast air. Although I'm afraid that if it's ice it'll do damage...

    This weekend is not starting out well. The park pump went again last night, and I was without water. Now this.
     
  2. Getson

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    Should have bought my place. I keep telling you.
     
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    What's the line made out of? Where do you think it's frozen? Can you go under your house and break the line apart to do a visual check? Will you be able to get the line back together if you do this? If it was me and it was a metal line I would get ahold of a tiger torch. Plastic line, break it apart. Unfortunately if you use some sort of antifreeze, it won't go into the drain very well since it will be lighter than water. Make a scoop out of an old 4L jug and get all the water out of the tub first. Ps. do not use the tig torch if you think the atmosphere could be at all hazardous (gas leak, spilled oil, etc).

    Do you have any mechanical skills or are you basically inept?
     
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    I am not sure if you could have been more of a bastard in that post Patb18c, errr Rory.
     
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    What do you mean? I'm just asking if he knew anything. If he doesn't he should call someone.
     
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    I didn't get the bastard vibe from that post. Seems helpful enough :bigup:
     
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    It's a plastic pipe. I'll have to go under the house again to check things out. The toilet and sinks work fine. But the bathtub (and washing machine) are connected and it's backed up somewhere. Some of the pipe is under the vapour barrier as well - I have no idea how to locate the blockage.

    I've never done plumbing repair, so I guess I'm inept.
     
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    My guess it would be in an S-pipe? It happened sometime between yesterday morning's shower and this mornings. So it had to be some standing water, somewhere.
     
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    You need to go by a pluming snake and feed it through the drain and find out where the blockage is. You might be able to dislodge it with that. You can get cheap ones at the little princess and canadian tire.
     
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    i got a 4 foot snake if ya wanna borrow one

    that sounded firty
     
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    Everything you just said is basically no help to him :shrug:

    There will be no "metal lines" underneath the mini home. If you break apart a pvc line now, you wont get it back together until it warms up a bit. The adheisive wont seal properly and you will have leaks.
     
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    hey man, i once had the exact problem in a second bathroom of a minihome. I had to spend some time with it and put hot water in...when the water was again cool i would suck it out with a turkey baister (sp?) and repeat the process. Each time the ice level drops. Ice block up was typically only at the first PVC ninety so not too much time. Sucks but it worked. Hope this helps bro..
     
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    nuke it.
     
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    Dammit - I posted but it didn't post. I'm not sure where the blockage is, but I think it's somewhere in the 5 foot line of PVC pipe leading to the main line under the house. So after the trap (the trap is insulated with a working heat tape, so I can't see that being the problem unless there's something in there that's not ice.

    Still not working. Periodically putting hot water down there, but I don't think it'll get far enough to do anything.
     
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    Pour some rubbing alcohol down there. It works when my car door is frozen :hsugh:
     
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    crank your heat and shut all the vents in the house so all the heat stays under the house...also pour some draino down the line which will eat away some shit...
    this is from experience as well
     
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    Never heard of the drain freezing....I do know they clug the same as any other drain though.

    I came hope to find I have no water if that makis you feel better :happysad:
     
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    Pouring hot water down will just make things worse if its frozen. Hot water freezes faster than cold. Alcohol doesn't melt ice it just doesn't freeze. Same with antifreeze. After the fact its not much use.
    You need to get a snake to know once and for all where the clog is. If its not frozen the snake should go through it.
     
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    I'm quite sure there is not a snake long enough for this purpose, since the back up is also affecting the washing machine. Can you get them like 5 feet long?

    And I'm quite sure the hot water freezing faster is an urban legend. Or old wives tale.
     
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    Nope, it's fact, apparently.

    http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
     
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    Reading up more on them now. Can you pick them up at any hardware store (a snake)? I didn't have a chance to get into one today.
     
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    you sure its not clogged with hair and such...i dont think its frozen

    go buy a small snake....if that does not work, rent a fuck off snake
     
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    as stated, i got a long snake ya can borrow

    still dirty
     
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    Water still evaporates in a pipe. As long as one end is open it will hapen. Snakes are usually well over 5 feet, so i wouldn't worry about that. I think 12-20' is the norm. Try Crappy tire, think they have a relatively low priced one, under $20.
     
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    I mean, the hot water is just displacing cold water in the pipe. Any evaporation probably wouldn't make a difference 4 feet down the pipe.

    I'll try the snake thing though. The only reason I'm skeptical it's not a clog and is ice and that this happened all of a sudden. Like - it was draining fine during Friday's shower, and then it wasn't letting ANY water pass for Saturday's shower (and those pipes weren't used in the meantime).
     
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    wohoo... I got home with my plumbers snake and the pipe had freed itself. Must have been ice then.
     

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