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making the move to a heat pump

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  1. Top Gun

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    I will bring this back to life again . Those that have a heat pump how often does it go into the defrost cycle ? Yesterday with +5 temps it seemed mine went into defrost every 20 minutes it would not get back to the heat settings before it would defrost again
     
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    My 2.5 ton might defrost twice a day at most
     
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  3. Boots

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    Yeah I have LGs and they don't defrost all that often that I've noticed.
     
  4. Wayne

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    Depends on the outside temps, but I never really tracked it... definately happens a bit here and there though.
     
  5. David Puddy

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    how can you tell when it goes into a defrost cycle?
     
  6. Gooch

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    My old panasonic unit on the detached garage gernaded.
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    Replaced with a proper Daikin 3mxl multi.
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    Both pictures are 24 hours apart. We had -5 with lots of snow down, to +11 and lost all snow. Great day for an install.
     
  7. Gooch

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    You may notice the indoor head blowing colder air
     
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    I’ve never noticed. Does it indicate on the remote somehow?
     
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    nope. The idea is that you will not notice. The unit fan reduces or turns off to help eliminate blowing cold air.
    defrost reverses the refrigeration cycle to warm up the outdoor condenser coil to melt the ice. just like it was going into AC mode.
     
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    Adding drain pan heaters is a good idea in my opinion on costal areas. Yes, they will decrease the efficiency slightly but will help keep the coil from icing up. That is what kills these units. Coastal low temps with high humidity is hard to deal with.
     
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    Ohhh that makes sense. Mine has never been iced up that I notice and I walk by it when I come and go from my house. Just a lucky spot in the install that it’s kind of protected I guess
     
  12. Boots

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    On my LG's you hear a noticeable "whoosh" and you can definitely feel a moment of cool breeze.
     
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    Location is key. if it is in a nice covered area out of prevailing winds you should never have to look at it.

    Also, I put wind baffles on all my units. Just another layer of protection.
     
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    TX valves are outside in the condenser on these residential units, so the only sound you hear is the flow of gas changing direction which is that whoosh sound
     
  15. Boots

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    Yep. I've been super happy with my LG units. Installed in 2014 and the only thing I've done is cleaned them and replaced a control board under warranty on one of the compressors. I don't even use my woodstove any more :o
     
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    i got my daikin in 2016 and it’s a beast. I only use my electric heat in the room where my dog in kennelled during the day.

    I grew up on wood stoves and do want one again someday tho :o
     
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  17. Boots

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    I've come to the realization that it doesn't really get cold in Nova Scotia and these heat pumps are efficient enough to heat the house cheaply :bowdown:
     
  18. Gooch

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    I am bias of course, but LG is ok :)
    A good installation goes a long way. The thing to remember about heat pump is if you cheap out it is not like buying a cheap tv. Cheap TV's you unplug and move on.
    A cheap heat pump dies and blows carbon and shit all through your lines, you will be replacing compressors for the rest of your life.
     
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  19. Gooch

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    The only reason for aux heat with a heat pump is for when the heat pump dies. Not because it can not keep up.
    Our huge temperature regulator (Atlantic ocean) works great.
    Geothermal is not worth the upfront costs here in my opinion. We can get the heat out of our air at a fraction of the cost.
     
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    Yeah my woodstove is now my emergency heat source :cool:
     
  21. Grifter

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    Get wood for free here. ($5 permit, cut it myself with the family). Wood is our primary heat source. Furnace just picks up the slack! :lol:.
     
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    My in-laws are still heating primarily with wood, 10-14 chord a season. They're in their 70's and are still felling, cutting, splitting, stacking, etc. AND selling to the neighbours. We're trying to convince them to go heat pump and cut down on the chords.
     
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    I usually cut 8 chord/year. Sometimes have a chord...maybe more left. This winter we will have lots left. Hasn't been that bad up until the past couple weeks.
     
  24. Boots

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    Funny story. My grandfather in Cape Breton used to work for the coal mines. He has a lifetime coal contract with them from the 50s where he gets a ton of coal delivered for like $12. He can heat his house for the whole winter for like $75 :rofl:
     
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    Dealing with that wood is what is keeping them healthy and fit. Do not take that away from them.
    cutting and splitting your own wood will heat you twice, but really more than that! I worked it out at the cabin that I move a piece of wood 8 times before burning it.
     
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    Taking away, no. Cutting back on the number of chords? Yes. He's still driving heavy machinery in the spring/summer/fall a few days a week, the man doesn't know how to stop. His body will eventually though.
     
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    im looking to buy another property right now and the ones with wood stoves are getting extra consideration :o
     
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    It gets cold enough here to hit aux every now and then, only once this year.

    But it also goes in aux mode when defrosting so I don't get that cool air some mentioned, at least not that I noticed. Aux is always hotter air.

    I got an Amana AVZC20.

    I got a cheap 21000btu mini split in attached garage...forget the name, got it cheap from a friend upgrading.

    I still want a pellet stove in basement to have for those big cold snaps to help out or power outages.
     
  29. Boots

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    Pretty sure your heat pump would operate a bit different than mini splits. The mini splits don't have backup electric heaters in em.
     
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    Which pellet stoves keep working w/o power? I was under the impression that they all had some sort of electronics for augers or feed gates.
     
  31. David Puddy

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    more for mini splits or do ducted units do it as well?
     
  32. David Puddy

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    i've seen these on larger 2 ton + condensors before, at least i think thats whats on top, almost looks like a funnel
     
  33. Wayne

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    Almost all them require power, you can get gravity fed ones like...

    https://www.homehardware.ca/en/wiseway-non-electric-pellet-stove/p/5531040

    I could go wood stove route too...just limited on where I could put it in basement and support the chimney it would require.
     
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    Would never, ever buy a pellet stove. What you're saying is also my understanding and that's only a small part of the reason why I would never buy one.
     
  35. Grifter

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    Jesus! :lol:. I can't even begin to imagine heating my house with coal! :lol:. Does he put on a conductor outfit and shovel the coal into the stove too? :lol:. I'm joking around but I'd have to at least do that once in my lifetime if I was to burn coal for heat.... And I'd have a hard time not saying "I'm given her all she's got Jim!" :rofl:
     

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