Covid19 Pandemic

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  1. Boots

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    By people in charge I mean the experts in charge of guiding us through this - the medical experts, infectious disease experts, etc. It's pretty much a fact at this point that social media is a breeding ground for misinformation. The media hasn't been much better as of late cashing in on peoples fear with clickbait and 24h news coverage.
     
  2. Boots

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    Today's data updated

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    Be interesting to hear the origins of the 17 new cases
     
  3. Boots

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    https://novascotia.ca/news/release/?id=20200325001

    guess that answers that
     
  4. HairyAss

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    There's nothing wrong about reading Facebook, but thinking that you know someone who has or has had it through Facebook is kinda, well obsurd. Hell if I self diagnosis myself from the internet I have 18 kinds of cancer, altzeimers, chlymidia, bubonic plague and am 6 months pregnant.
     
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    Facebook is fine if you are aware and look at everything you read on there with skepticism but the majority of the users on there don't. Same with twitter... it seems now that all it takes is someone with a blue checkmark tweeting something and it's spread around like fact :(
     
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    Absolutely. There is definitely far more *controversial* or fake information on social media and in the news. I was just flabbergasted that you dismissed all information available on social media and stated you were listening to people because they were in charge. Comes across as a little... :wtf:

    Thanks for clearing it up.
     
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    I mean even if I was listening to the politicians in charge (Trudeau, McNeil) they seem to be in line with the medical experts. Trump is a moron and I certainly wouldn't be considering him in charge of anything related to me :o
     
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    So in general I don't think we disagree on anything...social media is vile, people lie, science and officials are generally the best source of info. I was simply pointing out a fact that we can't truly say there is no community spread when people sick with flu symptoms are not tested because they didn't travel.
     
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    I guess the way I see that, if they didnt travel, or have been in contact with people that traveled, how would they get it? I think thats why they haven't been testing those people, at least here in NS. Virus is only gonna get here through people and if we're isolating those people, it shouldnt be out there.
     
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    Agreed. I think when they get a first positive test they can't trace back to an origin they will say it could indicate community spread. I know you guys are saying they aren't testing people that haven't traveled, but I'd be pretty shocked if someone with bad symptoms (requiring a trip to the hospital) wouldn't be tested when they got there and I would guess that if it this was spreading throughout the community that there would be at least be a single person who required a hospital visit. I'm far from an expert but just trying to look at it logically. We are all hyper aware of every single sick person we know these days and it's easy to jump to covid19 but a shitload of people get flu like illnesses all the time. It's so common we don't even really think anything of it normally.
     
  14. Boots

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    That's kind of where I'm at. Expand testing if and when they get a positive test that they can't trace to an origin. Testing everyone who gets a flu like illness seems like it would drastically increase the burden on the healthcare system.


    * to be clear, just my opinions, I don't know shit :rofl:
     
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    yeah, and as the testing has ramped up, I expect it to be expanded.
     
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    So Dr Strange just explained that they test on symptoms not on travel and they determine the link in follow up. So far, the have been able to link back all cases to someone who has travelled. Community spread will be considered when a gap is found that doesn't link them to a Traveller.
     
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  17. Boots

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    Unless he's blowing smoke up our ass, it seems like we are doing pretty good so far
     
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    I agree it originated by traveler...but...

    Let's say I traveled to China and got the virus but was currently as asymptomatic, come back after a business trip, and decided I need to go out and get groceries and shit now that I am back. While I am out, I visit the market, Super Store, Sobey's, and a handful of random stores I want to get stuff from.

    During that time, I randomly picked things up, coughed a couple times (air is dry, likely should go get a bottle of water, feeling dry), and put them back (which I do a lot)...how many random people now got the virus from being exposed by things I touched or potentially coughed on? There is no way they can track every single random person back to me.

    Need to test the symptoms.
     
  19. Boots

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    He also said that if you have flu like symptoms, you more likely have the flu not covid19
     
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    I do realize that NS and NB are testing based on symptoms, but it "wasn't" that way until a couple days ago.
     
  21. Boots

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    He said they are on the lookout for clusters and he confirmed what I said earlier where he said if the disease was spreading in the community they would expect to have someone need hospital care and them be unable to link it to a traveler.
     
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    I will also say, despite the testing gap, in general NS and NB seem to be doing well and listening well to the recommendations.
     
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    Our smaller populations help us out there for sure
     
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    There is a map that shows infections vs population. We aren't doing that great when you look at that. PEI, NFLD and Manitoba are winning there.
     
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    That would be community spread and so far they haven't found any like that.
     
  26. Boots

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    Well that's easy to explain away... Nobody wants to go to PEI in the winter, nobody wants to go to NFLD ever and the only place people want to go less than NFLD is Manitoba lol
     
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    Betcha right now they don't want people there either.
     
  28. Boots

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    Hell yeah. This whole thing is going to do wonders for the 'foreigners aren't welcome' attitude running rampant these days.
     
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    Until they discover it was brought over by someone returning home.
     
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    I don't think that would even matter
     
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    PEI has just as many if not more cases than us i heard today
    makes sense too, all the snowbirds over there.

    also, i was told there wasn't an infection map due to that information not being disclosed , unless of couse youre talking about a broad infection map
     
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    Map shows infections by province. Total population, total infections, infections per 100 people and percent infected.
     
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    One thing is for sure, this situation has led to a healthy cut in my friend's list on Facebook. Fear mongers, hate, negativity, divisive political bs. Good riddance! Drain the FB swamp!

    I had a lot of Americans from my time in the states. I have a lot less now.
     
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    Where did you live, PirateStevePirateSteve ? I have a lot of friends on Facebook in the States as well (primarily Seattle and the Bay Area) and other than one or two, I don’t see much of anything different than what I see from Canadian friends.
     

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