Me and a friend stopped at teh local dodge dealership today and man oh man, that car is MINT. I so want one, the salesman told us to come back on a nice day (b/c it was snowing like a bastard at teh time) and he'd let us take it for a spin, and maybe take the SRT-4 out as well.
i was in both - crossfire is okay srt- neon isn't really impressive either redline starts at 6000 rpms, but as soon as you hit 6 it has a fuel cut - fast for a neon though - but the only thing i liked was the seats other than that its still just a neon!
I saw a crossfire parked outside KOD on Quinpool today, don't know what to say about it... it will take some time to get used to it I guess.
Umm no.. it's not. It was entirely designed, tested and fabricated overseas... Chrysler simply purchased and marketed the crossfire once it was created and mocked up, slapped their badges on it and brought it to North America.
The Crossfire is essentially a re-bodied Mercedes SLK based on the current outgoing platform. Same platform, engine, transmission and running gear. Then it had a Crysler designed body and interior bolted on top of. Pretty smart on Daimler's behalf actually... this way they get an extra 4 or 5 years for their investment in a platform which would be thrown out because it was just replaced with a new model. That's the thing with people who have this domestic vs. import mindset. It doesn't work in the global car industry. The Focus was designed by Ford of Europe. Is that imported or domestic? Wait... Ford owns Mazda? So is a Mazda an import or a domestic? Daimler-Benz (i.e. Merceded) owns Chrysler, so are all Chrysler's imports now?
Funny thing is most car journalists feel the crossfire is a great car, awesome handling, and excellent build quality (and not considered a domestic since build over seas). But hey what does anyone on this board know, we are all experts..........
i dont care what anybody says here... its still a nice car and if i had the money id probibly pic one up on a second
right from Chrysler Canada Power and Performance: 3.2-litre, SOHC 18-valve, V-6 engine that produces 215 horsepower and 229 pound-feet of torque Choice of 2 transmissions, 6-speed manual or 5-speed automatic with AutoStick™ Speed-sensitive deployable rear spoiler increases the stability of the vehicle at higher speeds Independent double wishbone front and independent five link rear suspension 4-wheel disc with 4-wheel anti-lock brakes which includes Brake Assist (senses emergency braking) Ultra-low profile P225/40ZR18 front and P255/35ZR19 rear tires Steering – Power-assisted, recirculating-ball, hydraulic damper, 16.7:1 ratio Exceptional body torsional stiffness provides a solid feel and contributes to precise handling
I was just about to say it has a lot of the same lines and the SLK and the Vision SLR as well.... don't know if you have seen that car, but the SLR has a lot of similar areas....
225 HP and 229 FT/LBS for $50,000 Seems a little underpowered to me.... I do kinda like the look of it though.
Ugly as sin IMO those lines on the hood? trim around windshield is out of place gills don't suit the car
I didn't know the price of a car was a simple multiple of it's HP rating. While I do somewhat agree with you, you can get the exact same drivetrain, platform and engine (with actually 10 less HP) sitting in an MB SLK320 Converable or that engine CLK Coupe for $62K... does that seem more reasonably priced?
I actually agree. But, just trying to point out that you can't judge the price of a car by the HP... the HP is only one dynamic factor, and one that the target market for this vehicle doesn't rate as highly as the average HP-obsessed early 20s male is...
As said. . . thats a big wrongo! They are built over in Germany. And as mentioned, they are built off and modeled from Mercede's platforms (hmm. . . the Dailmer-Chrysler thing has HELPED Chrysler and hurt Mercedes by the looks of it). Thought it was kinda neat when a friend of mine was telling me they were awesome and mint a couple months ago, and I had asked him where he got his hands on one at, and he said unloading them off the boat at autoport. They look nice, imo, and they are not overpriced. . . you pay the big money for something that is all around, ride, styling, name, design, interior, and now you're partially paying for the Mercedes name. I mean, how can people say that the cost of a vehcile is proportional to the hp that it makes? In that case, if I spent 1,000,000 on a MacLaren, I'd want the thing to have round abouts 5000 hp.
While I agree with almost everything you said, I still think the Crossfire is a little over priced... it's trading on it's style and MB heritage (mind you, it wasn't on one MBs better platforms) a little too much. I mean, for less money you can get something like my RX-8. Better looking (IMO), comparable ride, styling, design, interior etc. plus it's more practical and better performing. For a little less then a Crossfire you can get a G35 Coupe or if you just want the prestige without the "style" you can get a 330Ci...
You can always buy something that is a bit better for a better price, but what it comes down to is what people are looking for, for what they actually want. Maybe there is someone out there who likes Chryslers and wants the new Crossfire? The same reason why usually "older people" buy the Crown Victoria's, or Grand Marquie's when there is a million cars out there that are better all around. They just want it, (usually cause its big, and luxurious). I know the price is a bit steep on the thing, and that its built off of a Mercedes lower platform, but, its something original, or supposedly, for the Chrysler guys. . . these are the guys that brough us the friggin PT Cruiser, and equally if not greater disgustingly Prowler.
No arguments from me on any of that stuff. Just putting forward a thought on the slight over-priced ness of the car. (And I don't mean dramatically so... it's probably more like a $46K car instead of a $50K car)
i don't like it at all the tailights are kinda cool but reminds me of an audi tt tail lights the hood and lines on it make it look cheezy i think and the front lights/grill look a lot like a caddy
Watch the speed vision test drive on the car with tommy keddel, and you can quickly see that there are systems in the car that are costly. But again maybe over priced, but shit there are many other cars out there that are more over priced then this. Look at a subaru Sti, 47,000 and well you get a car that fast as snot, good in bad and good conditions, but feels like the worlds biggest plastic ball inside.
Actually, the STi is $48,900... and you got it right on.. thus part of the reason I bought the RX-8 instead. When you are going balls out, the STi is an amazing drivers car, but the 80% of your time you are commuting to work, going to the mall, buying groceries etc. you are driving around in the $50K Impreza with an airforce surplus parkbench bolted to the trunk....
