Cheating - the academic kind

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  1. thunder

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    Soooooooo today I was chit chatting with a TA for a course I am in, who informed me that 99.9% of the cases of cheating - if the student pushes back, it gets thrown out. The student will always win if they pursue it...

    Aaaaaaand of course I find this out in my last semester :happysad: Not that I would have cheated anyway.

    Just an FYI - but if this info comes to bite you in the ass, don't blame me :o
     
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    I still think that cheating is wrong and would never cheat.
     
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    Another professor who I was speaking with mentioned that the way we (this generation) has learned promotes 'cheating'... that most people dont even really know what is and isn't plagiarism anymore. :shrug:

    I do agree that cheating is stupid... I've 'cheated' once in my university education. I was in a test, and a question on the test came from a presentation I HAD DONE, DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESENTATION I MADE, and so I was majorly overthinking the answer. I chose the answer the person next to me chose, because they probably weren't over thinking it.... and because I did that, I got the question wrong. Learned my lesson - I'm smarter than other people, so why the fuck cheat off of them?
     
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    Im so worried about plagiarism i cite anything and everything lol.
     
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    I've never really cared before.. I figure I cite more than most students... but now that I'm writing something that could get published, and thus heavily scrutinized by the academic community, I cite after every freaking sentence.
     
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    If the student pushes back it'll get thrown out? but why? Wouldn't the uni want to try and discriminate against cheating?
    i have a feeling this has something to do with last year NS having the most people graduate from uni ever.
     
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    I guess theres a couple reasons... One being that they rarely have enough 'proof', especially in the context of test-cheating. Also, they dont really want to kick you out... they want to keep getting your money... at least at UofC that seems to be the case.
     
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    Cheating in undergrad isn't taken seriously at all.

    Cheating in grad school is taken extremely seriously.
     
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    Yes I would assume so... Especially since you're often writing publishable documents (theses and such), and plagiarism would reflect terribly upon your institution.
     
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    it's only cheating if you get caught
     
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    i accidentally the whole diploma
     
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    asians blatantly cheat in my classes.. I rage out.
     
  13. Muricane

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    I also experienced that.

    Two economics degrees = lots of them
     
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    Yeah my stats classes had lost of them too.
     
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    In the physics course we had to take in college, it was not uncommon to hear "Hey man what did you get for number 3?" right out loud.

    Teacher didnt give a fuck. She knew the course was irrelivant.
     
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    Standards must be slipping.

    I graduated from Memorial University in 1993 [BSc. Geophysics]. Cheating was hunted and slaughtered by professors like the scurge it is. Two students in the same year as I were expelled for a minimum of 5 years for plagiarizing a research paper in their own honors research paper (didn't help that they plagiarized a member of the Memorial University Chemistry faculty).

    Cheating on exams, if caught, was usually met with an incomplete grade (not quite the same as getting zero, but of no use in terms of credit all the same) for the course and suspension for two semesters.

    Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think people should earn their grades. I want to believe that the CPA doing my taxes didn't graduate simply because he happened to have good seating proximity in relation to the fat kid with glasses.
     
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    She couldnt relate the material in class, to our main course.

    It got to the point where it was like, okay, i cant tell you whats wrong with your freezer, but i can tell you how much the water in your pool weighs :ugh2:
     
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    In that case, I would say the course was not irrelevant but that the instructor was ill equipped to present the material.

    On occassion, you get a great teacher. A little more often, you get a good teacher. Unfortunately, most times, you just get a teacher.
     

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