ATTN:Honda people...HALP.

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  1. nb132

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    OK....I'm about 2 seconds away from pushing this thing off the biggest cliff I can find.
    1992 honda civic dx(base model)

    Saturday...driving down the road...sputter, sputter...stall....as if it were out of fuel. Shit...gauge still says 1/4 of a tank...wtf.

    Push car up road to esso...put gas in. Starts right up...oh, ok. weird. Drive out of parking lot, up road 200m..sputter sputter stall. WTF.

    Car will turn over all day long. Car is getting spark.

    CAR IS NOT GETTING FUEL.

    Took out fuel pump...no more pumpy pump. Fuck. Now...matty has a bunch of 91 civic parts laying around, even though the part number is different, tested the pump from the 91...it worked great...made a couple small changes to the wiring(the connectors were a bit different) inserted pump...thought all would be well...pump won't power up....

    FUCK. Main fuel relay must have shit the bed too then, right? Went to honda, bought a new relay(100 fucking bucks for a piece of plastic!-FUCK). Popped her in, reallly looking forward to having the car back on the road...nope. Fuel pump not getting power. FUCK.


    Annnnnd that's where we are. We have checked all the fuses we could find that appeared to be relevant etc. nothing.

    I'm stuck. I need it back on the road. :( Any ideas? Could this all be because of the pump from the 91? I just don't want to spend 400+ on a fuel pump when that isn't what's causing the problem.....
     
  2. Matt30

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    Theres no power going to the fuel pump, at all. A brand new pump fresh off the assembly line wouldnt make a difference.
     
  3. 17

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    troll thread. hondas dont break
     
  4. Leroy

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    did you check the harness for breaks/corrosion? I had an old Corolla that had a bad wire in the harness, caused me lots of rage. Could also be a bad ground?
     
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    You absolutely sure its done correctly?
    The 91 pump works, in a 91, did you check if there is power going to the wires?
    Not the pump.
     
  6. Boots

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    yeah, first thing I'd do is bust out a multimeter...
     
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    There is no power in the wires that connect to the fuel pump.

    Im gonna fuck with it a little more today with a clearer head.
     
  8. Jenn

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    It definitely sounds suspiciously like a bad wire. If all else fails, run a new wire from the source (relay/fuse, etc) to the pump.
     
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    do these cars have a pump kill switch?
     
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    Not sure what you mean.

    I install my own switches on my fuel pumps for racing so i can stop the pump from running incase of a roll over. Some pumps have contacts inside that seperate and kill power if the pump is turned upside down (like a roll over). Im not sure if the hondas have this or not. I guess it wouldnt be hard to test.
     
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    Im just thinking, my Mustang has a relay in the rear that if bumped will kill the pump.
     
  12. Stan

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    Any check engine lights? Could be the fuel filter... I've also seen a corroded banjo bolt in the fuel rail cause the same issue.
     
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  14. Matt30

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    How would a plugged up filter cut off power to the fuel pump?
     
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    I missed that part. When you turn the key to the on position, you don't hear the pump prime? Put a multi-meter on the power wires to the fuel pump and turn the key to the on position while someone looks at the meter.
     
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    The pump was working, or at least directly hooked up to the battery. I'm certain its a bad wire/ground.... somewhere...
     
  18. Matt30

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    Done, no dice :(
     
  19. Matt30

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    I just got in the house.

    Took old relay, and checked for continuity. There was no continuity between 2 of the terminals, i forget the numbers, so that would tell me that relay was toast.

    Same with new relay, its good.

    What would fry a pump, and a relay at the same time?
     
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    Poltergeist?
     
  21. Smokey

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    I don't remember if the 92+ are the same but check for the ground on the t-stat housing, i know on the Ef's if that ground is broken or coroded you will get no fuel pump power
     

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