Breaking News Active shooter in Portapique/Glenholme

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  1. boing

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    I not able to shoot competitive platforms that use the AR due to a disability so I don't know what the feeling is it that community, I shoot cowboy action no AR in mid to late 1800.
    I have hunting rifles that I can still use but I am fortunate enough to have that some don't.

    No the majority of Canadians did not choose him and his mandate.
     
  2. boing

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    And two min before this they said these weapons were "only used to kill as many people as fast as possible"...
     
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  3. boing

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    You said if the government ban AR's you were okay with it... And that is where I stopped reading
     
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    Yes because this ban would have stopped the shooting that happened in NS?
    He was not licensed to own a firearm, what we do know about the gun that he used is that it came from the US, our government is refusing to saw anything else about the rest of the guns used. We can assume that he took the the RCMP sidearm after shooting the officer and the firearms in her patrol car, all illegal.
    There is also the arson matter I can hardly wait until Justin ban bic lighters, oh wait that's not going to happen bic is french.

    So Lance Armstrong explain how this ban would have stopped it :popcorn:?
     
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    The feeling in that community is utter disgust. I have a buddy that travels North America doing 3 gun. He's not happy. He has a hard enough time adjusting to mag size when he competes in the US. He keeps throwing them out when they are half empty.

    Trudeau was elected fairly, the same way all PMs and their parties are elected. If you have a problem with that, it's a separate issue. If banning a particular gun could stop people dying, I'm all for it, but it can't and it won't. The timing is disgusting, the rules are half assed, and if something like this happens again, they are just going to ban more rather than consider that maybe their actions were ineffective. It's lose/lose.

    So here's my question. If they could (which they can't) but if they could prove without any doubt whatsoever that banning these particular guns would have a measurable and significant effect on gun violence (which it won't), would you support the ban?
     
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    If taking guns away from legal responsible gun owners would stop gun violence I WOULD SUPPORT A GUN BAN 100% most people with this it's just emotion and they don't have any facts. There has never been a single AR shooting death in Canada.
    It was mentioned earlier in this thread about the Mohawk Warriors being happy about this ban. That is where the government needs to focus their gun control on but they won't because the liberals don't want to ruffle any first nations feathers, no pun intended.
    I am done debating this we can go on for ever and I just don't have the time or energy anymore to do this.
     
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    Where did I say this ban would have stopped it? You’re combining two separate issues.

    You’re way too emotional over this
     
  8. Grifter

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    He's not actually digesting what ANYONE is saying. I don't think he has any dogs in this fight anymore. Just irrational posting now.
     
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    I barely comment on here, but the quotes above remind of what I've seen from the military folks and the otherwise brainwashed on my feed. The 'socially conservative' if there is such a thing don't seem to be able to think critically; thankfully I don't really see that reading threads like these.

    Stuff like:
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    Despicable, really.
     
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    Presented without comment

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  11. boing

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    Let me try to explain a little better what I am trying to say. This is used quite often but I just saw it on this HOC petition, I am not asking for signatures but sign if you want
    https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2574
    First they came for the automatic rifles, and I did not speak out—
    Because I did not have an automatic rifle.

    Then they came for the "military" rifles (semi-autos), and I did not speak out—
    Because I did not have a "military" rifle.

    Then they came for the handguns, and I did not speak out—
    Because I did not have a handgun.

    Then they came for my hunting rifle —and there was no one left to speak for me.

    If you don't stand with ALL gun owners no gun owners will stand with you.
    I am a hunter as well but I am also a sport shorter, I am slow as hell and but I shoot to have fun. I enjoy going to range to target shoot and as my disability is getting worse I am not able to hunt as much I am shooting more at the range and shooting more of my restricted firearms.
    I know I am emotional but it's not the gun issue that is bothering the most it's how it was done.
     
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    First I've seen on 10-12ga
     
  14. boing

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    Same here I just saw it when I was replying to that other post and copied and posted it, I am just looking more into it now.
     
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    This sounds like some of the arguments folks had when the topic of legalizing gay marriage came up. Follow it down the line, if you let homosexuals marry, how long will it be before people will marry their dogs?!

    As someone who champions gun control causes like this, I don't know anyone who says we should be taking guns away from hunting. I'm sure there are people out there but the goal of gun control is not to completely abolish guns but to ensure the guns that remain have an intended purpose that can't be easily abused. It sucks that you're losing something that you use for enjoyment - I do have sympathy for you but, outside of the US, the rest of the world is showing us that this is/was an inevitable course to take.
     
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    There were hunting rifles included in the ban so if you just believe the spewed liberal shit then fine but they are going after all guns and this was not brought in in a democratic way.
    This rifle is now banned in Canada and there are more like this.
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    This is the text I first saw and it really does ring home on this one, if the gay one works for you fine but it's starting to feel a lot like 1939 Germany here.

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
     
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    "it's starting to feel a lot like 1939 Germany here"

    Exaggerate much?
     
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    Well we haven't invaded Poland yet so maybe a little
     
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    So dramatic. Jesus Christ


    equating gun control with the extermination of millions of people because of race and religion, is far and above the biggest reach I have seen about this topic yet, and that includes the room temperature IQ crowd on Facebook
     
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    So, yeah, they aren't taking you to a death camp. You'll be OK. The dramatics are hurting not helping your cause.
     
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    I am far enough away from Red Canada to be OK for now.
     
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    That's how it started and not just in Germany, know your history?
     
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    You know, nobody on here has called you out for not supporting gay rights and frankly I think that's more important than not being able to shoot your favorite gun.
     
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    Yeah, but no. It started with a political party that did not see every group of being worthy of equal rights ...
     
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    You really have no idea what you’re talking about.
     
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    I'm actually well versed in my history, especially around WWII - it's a fascinating topic. If we want to look at what is coming close in modern history as an analog to Nazi Germany, the easiest comparison would be Trump or North Korea. The Nazi regime was much more based on racism and they convinced Germans that it was all Ok with a well thought out propaganda campaign. Even if you don't believe Trump is racist (all signs of his policy and some of his direct quotes about people of color and regardless of his family ties to the KKK), his increasing use of propaganda is well documented.

    I would not say that the new gun control measures are based on race. And I would find it hard to call anything going on around getting it done as propaganda either.

    Yes, you're upset about what is happening - something you view as a fundamental right is being taken away with what seems to be little debate and an abuse of power. I can sympathize with you to a certain extent on that. There are many Canadians who I'm sure feel just as upset as you do. But... comparing it to 1939 German Nazi tactics? Not even close. As others have pointed out, you're letting emotions cloud your argument and no one wants to listen to you - it's going to "crazy guy in the woods" territory instead of an intelligent debate.

    Want something to debate about this? What normal rules of parliament has Trudeau abused to pass this through so quickly? Is that fair? It's not the same as leading up to a holocaust but it is worth discussion.

    In other words, fuck off with your over the top rhetoric. I'm happy to discuss this with you man to man but if all you want to do is put on a tinfoil hat and spout conspiracy theory type BS, then GTFO.
     
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    I've already made my comments.

    But I'll chime in on this.

    In regards to boings comments, I'm not entirely in agreance.

    I'm regards to yours, I'm also not entirely in agreance.

    According to the new laws... The idiot running our country placed them without following the correct process, AND without doing his homework. According to this, the majority of shotguns Canadians own, are now illegal. I have not verified the specifics, but I'm thinking from what I read, the shotgun I JUST purchased may be included. It's a 12 guage shotgun, typical of the duck hunting variety. Not uncommon.
    After the publications made today? I wouldn't be shocked if the "laws" were to be repealed and reviewed and made to look idiotic. They were NOT thought through and rushed.

    Do we need an assault rifle to go hunting? No.
    Are they fun to shoot at a range? Yes. Do we need a shotgun to go hunting? Yes. Good luck duck hunting with a bolt action rifle. I bought mine for protection while bear hunting. But I also know in the future I may want to take a crack at water foul.

    The laws were not placed with a fair shake. And I repeat... If we must ban firearms, I can live without certain varieties. But what was placed was asinine.
     
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    Wow it's not hard to tell where your kids get their behavioral problems from there Moonbat.
    Maybe smoke a bowl and relax I will get to this tomorrow when I am on my good day time meds and have my tinfoil hat on.
    Just to give you something to think about
    For someone so versed on German WW2 history and all that babbling about nazi's to show how intelligent you are you don't mention one thing about gun control during the third reich.
     
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    Insulting his kids? Seriously? Are you 13 years old?
     
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    Boing, I just want to confirm your end game prediction here. You believe that Trudeau himself is taking away guns with the end goal of becoming a dictator ultimately ending with the mass genocide of the population. Makes perfect sense.
     
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    Boots, wouldn't hurt to split this thread up.
     
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    From what I've read, the shotgun spinoff is based off the interpretation of the new policies by a particular advocacy group. It might be the result of a poorly worded policy, it might be intentional, or it might be some people trying to spin things to get the support of an exponentially larger sub group, the hunters. Regardless it does highlight less than stellar wording of the policy but I don't believe for a second that the intent of the policy was to impact duck hunters. My belief, it it infact does actually impact certain shotguns, is that it's unintentional collateral damage caused by people rushing things through and not worrying about / not knowing about this issue. If the shotguns are in fact covered by this, I would expect it to be corrected. Creating a policy that impacts a small sub group of sport shooters and gun lovers is one thing, directly and negatively impacting the large group of waterfowl hunters is another. There's far too much money and brains in that group to let this go through.
     
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    Agreed 100%
     
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    It's quite entangled :o
     

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