Aaron Russo's conversation with Nick Rockefeller 11 months before 9/11.

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  1. turtle beach

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    I have investigated 9/11 for the last 6 years.... This is an old favorite of mine that gets right to the point and I suggest anyone who ever questioned 9/11 to watch at least the first 5 mins. If you don't care about 9/11 or the war in the middle east then this is not for you BUT if you do.... this should be great for ya.


    [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&q=Aaron+Russo+Nick+Rockefeller&hl=en"]Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population[/ame]

    Come on people! I have 5 hours left at work and I need some interesting things to talk about:bigup:
     
  2. turtle beach

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    same thing man
     
  3. arsehole

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    lolol
     
  4. turtle beach

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    Information is here if ya want it
     
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    Why not say something before 9/11?

    I have some big questions about 9/11...but people like this don't help the cause
     
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    you have big questions:)

    niice man, nice.

    if you ask them, I can try to provide some answers. key word is try.

    the internet is a great tool for information, look up some stuff and post it if you find it interesting. I'll be here to discuss
     
  7. billybob

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    I'm tellin ya man, its all there.


    If you look, you can see man. I'm just showing you what you can see man. Common stuff.
     
  8. JAC

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    I've been reading/watching/listening since 9/11...

    I'm sure my questions are the same as most...things that don't add up...missing plane in the field, too small of a hole in the Pentagon, how the twin towers fell
     
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    I believe it to be a complete farce.
     
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    you're funny!






    what's your opinion billy boy
     
  12. billybob

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    I did it.
     
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    you're a joke
     
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    The whole fleshlight?
     
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    Building #7 is a big question
     
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    oh yeah man. that is BS. I mean they don't even mention it in the 9/11 report !!!!!!

    I just think with TV, Sports, Life, Relationships and anything we do everyday gets in the way of exploring the questions......

    Most people will watch TV and read local newspapers for the facts and won't look at other sources. I mean why would anyone question our government?

    If you look at it and think what did the USA gain......... well there is a fuck load.
     
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    from http://www.wtc7.net/

    What Caused Building 7's Collapse?
    This question would appear to be the greatest in engineering history. In over 100 years of experience with steel-framed buildings, fires have never caused the collapse of a single one, even though many were ravaged by severe fires. Indeed, fires have never caused the total collapse of any permanent steel structure.

    What was done to answer this most important question? The only official body that admits to having investigated the curious collapse of Building 7 is FEMA's Building Performance Assessment Team (BPAT), which blamed fires for the collapse but admitted to being clueless about how fires caused the collapse.

    People who have seen buildings implode in controlled demolitions are unlikely to be as challenged as FEMA's team in understanding the cause of Building 7's collapse. They will notice, upon watching the videos, that Building 7's collapse showed all of the essential features of a controlled demolition.

    Despite having the appearance of a controlled demolition, is it possible that Building 7 could have been destroyed by some combination of damage from tower debris, fuel tank explosions, and fires? Let's consider the possible scenarios.

    NIST released a photograph in 2005 showing a large gouge in the lower portion of the southwest corner of Building 7, and its collapse scenario deviates significantly from FEMA's in emphasizing alleged structural damage from the collapse of the North Tower. That photograph is notable for its lack of corroboration, and NIST's claims of other regions of damage to the building's south face lack substantiating evidence. Even if NIST's claims about structural damage from North Tower debris were true, it would not begin to explain the precipitous, symmetrical manner in which Building 7 collapsed. Structural damage to the south side -- particularly to the lower stories -- would have made any kind of vertical collapse all the more unlikely.

    The idea that diesel fuel stored in Building 7 is to blame for the collapse was promoted by The New York Times in late 2001 and by FEMA's 2002 Building Performance Study. 1 This idea is also untenable. Fires were observed in Building 7 prior to its collapse, but they were isolated in small parts of the building, and were puny by comparison to other building fires. Let's imagine, contrary to the evidence, that debris from the tower collapses damaged Building 7's structure, that diesel fuel tanks exploded, and that incredibly intense fires raged through large parts of the building. Could such events have caused the building to collapse? Not in the manner observed. The reason is that simultaneous and symmetric damage is needed to produce a collapse with the precise symmetry of the vertical fall of building 7. This building had 58 perimeter columns and 25 core columns. In order to cause the building to sink into its footprint, all of the core columns and all of the perimeter columns would have to be broken in the same split-second.

    Any debris from the towers impacting Building 7 would have hit its south side, and any columns damaged by it would almost certainly be perimeter columns on its south side. Any fuel tank explosion would only be able to damage nearby structure. The rapid fall-off of blast pressures with distance from the source would preclude any such event from breaking all of the columns in the building.
    Building 7 was about 5 times as tall as it was deep.
    (Furthermore the very idea of a tank of diesel fuel exploding taxes the imagination, since diesel fuel does not even begin to boil below 320º F. 2 ) Fires have never been known to damage steel columns in high-rise buildings, but if they could, the damage would be produced gradually and would be localized to the areas where the fire was the most intense.

    No combination of debris damage, fuel-tank explosions, and fires could inflict the kind of simultaneous damage to all the building's columns required to make the building implode. The precision of such damage required to bring Building 7 down into its footprint was especially great, given the ratio of its height to its width and depth. Any asymmetry in the extent and timing of the damage would cause such a building to topple.
     
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    I know...it doesn't add up
     
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    See, I don't get the whole Russo saying Rockefeller told him 9/11 was going to happen.

    Russo is/was a TV/music/movie producer who managed many acts like The Who, Zepplin and Bette Midler. He has been nominated for Grammy's, Oscars, Emmy's, Tony's and Golden Globes.

    He then gets in trouble with the IRS in the 90's and turns into a semi-conspiracy guy who made films about the IRS, NAFTA, National ID cards, etc.......

    Why would a supposed member of the group he opposes tell him info like that?? Was it a "look what we can do and you can't do a thing about it" move or is Russo just being used to create more division on the whole 9/11 topic??

    I mean - ya get this guy to come out and say Rockefeller told him they planned 9/11 - then you have the government releasing footage on CNN of a missile or something (but not a plane) hitting the Pentagon. It's like someone is trying to make 9/11 a catalyst for creating another example of keeping people divided.
     
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    How many buildings in history have been hit by large commercial airplanes?
     
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    interesting point...too bad russo is dead.


    I know what you mean but I think that they wanted Russo to know and to join thier side.......

    but he didn't want to and he got pissed off and told people what he was told...and had the balls to do so
     
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    well in the report it said internal fires from inside the building made the towers collapse......melted the steal... It didn't say the plans took it town.

    I can't answer that but ima go and try find out
     
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    did you watch the Zeitgeist movie? (sp).
     
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    yeah, it's ok...a little to mainstream for me tho
     
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    some parts are good tho
     
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    Barak Obama would have blocked the planes like shaq would block me trying to take it to the hole.
    for serious.
     
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    :lol:

    you better put that puck in the net tonight, Shaq
     
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    9/11 def isn't what we were told it was. However what/why/who did it will probably never be known by any of us, we can play conspiracy theory all day and make up or own ideas but none of us have a fucking clue why it happened and who is behind it..
     
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    it was the russians.
     
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    so then you're saying danny did it?
     
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    I'm more worried about you showing up than me putting the puck in the net, homeslice.
     
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    Who would you say benefited the most from the after-effects of 9/11?

    A. Bin Laden (who supposedly did it)?

    B. The US Government (cause they can now pass many Acts they couldn't before and got to engage in war in the Middle East/get oil)?

    C. The people who needed it to happen to push forth a plan they had?


    That plan, by the way, included at least 5 major goals...which were....

    1. Gain control of 6 trillion $$'s worth of oil and natural gas in central Asia through a pipeline via Afghanistan.

    2.
    Win back support for the increasingly unpopular policies of Sharon in Israel and provide a basis for a mass invasion of occupied Palestine.

    3.
    Allow certain people to profit from the opium trade of the Northern Alliance drug lords and the money-laundering through global investment channels that the opium trade and the derivative heroin trade supports.

    4.
    The Project For A New American Century (PNAC) whose National Security Strategy includes attacking possible future competitors first, assuming regional hegemony by force of arms in the Middle East, controlling energy resources around the globe, maintaining a permanent war strategy, ignoring treaties and world opinions that the US don't like, and establishing military bases in foreign countries.

    5.
    Start a war between Christianity and Islam by blaming the religion of Islam for the 911 incident and terrorist acts throughout the world.

    Most, if not all of the goals, were met by 9/11 happening. We may not know who exactly was behind it, but it appears it was not Bin Laden or the US Government. :)
     
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    it was the man behind the curtian.
     
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    The Plane That Crashed Into the Empire State Building

    http://history1900s.about.com/od/1940s/a/empirecrash.htm

    The used the investigation of this crash to change the building codes, to which the twin towers were constructed
     

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